Robert Klahn robert
Tue Sep 19 10:07:01 PDT 2006
With all due respect, this strikes me as off-topic. Perhaps 
"gborg-general" or a private conversation would be a better place.

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> From: "Dave Page" <dpage at vale-housing.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Migrating From gBorg
> To: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd at commandprompt.com>
> Cc: Jan Wieck <JanWieck at Yahoo.com>,
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd at commandprompt.com] 
>> Sent: 19 September 2006 16:53
>> To: Dave Page
>> Cc: David Fetter; Jan Wieck; slony1-general at gborg.postgresql.org
>> Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Migrating From gBorg
>>
>>
>> 1. We don't ask
>> 2. It's about *who* you ask
>> 3. When was the last time somebody asked?
>>     
>
> OK (and this is getting seriously off-topic for this list, so perhaps
> replies to -www would be in order), we recently lost a server that
> pervasive hosted for us which hosted one of the primary web mirrors,
> among other things. This was a dedicated dual Xeon server. Know who we
> can blag a replacement from somewhere in mainland Europe?
>
>   
>>> every time I've reported an outage on a
>>> Command Prompt hosted server it's had to wait for you 
>>>       
>> before it could be
>>     
>>> resolved.
>>>       
>> I may be the person that communicates with the community but I assure 
>> you that I am not normally the person that resolves the issue.
>>     
>
> Maybe not, but it doesn't change the fact that we've had to wait for you
> to wake up before things got resolved.
>
> Don't get me wrong, whilst 24x7 is nice, I fully appreciate that you and
> any of our other providers are running businesses and can't be expected
> to drop everything for us. We (the community) need to stay realistic
> about our expectations of any volunteer provider, and do what we can to
> be self reliant until such time as we start paying someone to take the
> responsibility for us (and with due respect to Andrew, we may be setup
> with SPI now, but that doesn't mean we actually have loads of money to
> spend on such things - yet).
>
>   
>> It makes sense for me to communicate with the community 
>> because it is my 
>> company. The community has a right to hear from *me* about the issue.
>>     
>
> Absolutely, and that's a good thing.
>
> Regards, Dave.
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:10:41 -0700
> From: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd at commandprompt.com>
> Subject: Re: [Slony1-general] Migrating From gBorg
> To: Dave Page <dpage at vale-housing.co.uk>
> Cc: Jan Wieck <JanWieck at Yahoo.com>,
> 	slony1-general at gborg.postgresql.org
> Message-ID: <45101681.2030301 at commandprompt.com>
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>> OK (and this is getting seriously off-topic for this list, so perhaps
>> replies to -www would be in order), we recently lost a server that
>> pervasive hosted for us which hosted one of the primary web mirrors,
>> among other things. This was a dedicated dual Xeon server. Know who we
>> can blag a replacement from somewhere in mainland Europe?
>>     
>
> mastermind / Stefan (I think is his real name)
>
>   
>> Maybe not, but it doesn't change the fact that we've had to wait for you
>> to wake up before things got resolved.
>>     
>
> Yes that is true in the *past*, but hasn't been in some time.
>
>
>   
>>> It makes sense for me to communicate with the community 
>>> because it is my 
>>> company. The community has a right to hear from *me* about the issue.
>>>       
>> Absolutely, and that's a good thing.
>>     
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>   
>> Regards, Dave.
>>
>>     
>
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